Russian President Putin to U.S.: I'm ready for another Cuban Missile-style crisis if you want one

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Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:10 pm

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Russia is militarily ready for a Cuban Missile-style crisis if the United States wanted one and threatened to place hypersonic nuclear missiles on ships or submarines near U.S. territorial waters.

The Cuban Missile Crisis erupted in 1962 when Moscow responded to a U.S. missile deployment in Turkey by sending ballistic missiles to Cuba, sparking a standoff that brought the world to the brink of nuclear war.

More than five decades on, tensions are rising again over Russian fears that the United States might deploy intermediate-range nuclear missiles in Europe, as a landmark Cold War-era arms-control treaty unravels.

Putin's comments, made to Russian media late on Wednesday, follow his warning that Moscow will match any U.S. move to deploy new missiles closer to Russia by stationing its own missiles closer to the United States or by deploying faster missiles or both.

Putin detailed his warning for the first time, saying Russia could deploy hypersonic missiles on ships and submarines which could lurk outside U.S. territorial waters if Washington now moved to deploy intermediate-range nuclear weapons in Europe.

"(We're talking about) naval delivery vehicles: submarines or surface ships. And we can put them, given the speed and range (of our missiles)... in neutral waters. Plus they are not stationary, they move and they will have to find them," Putin said, according to a Kremlin transcript.

"You work it out: Mach nine (the speed of the missiles) and over 1,000 km (their range)."
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Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:44 pm

That is a pretty overt threat.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:56 am

DEFCONWarningSystem wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:44 pm
That is a pretty overt threat.
Once a nation's rhetoric to another nation reaches the point where you are reduced to overt threats to send 'messages' and subtlety is all but abandoned...well it's concerning. But this could be simple maneuvering on Putin's part...? Does he have something to gain by this kind of bluff? (Assuming it is a bluff)

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Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:11 am

Prepare for war on our soil. East coast, learn Russian, west coast, learn Chinese, Midwest, learn to make IEDs and how to communicate without a power grid. Putin's not bluffing, he might have tipped his hand on this one.
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Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:33 am

Agreed. Putin is not bluffing. He would be going down this road anyway, but it isn't helped that he perceives America as incredibly weak at this point.

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Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:48 am

What are the chances of the US deploying nuclear weapons in Europe? I would hope they will not do it after this.
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Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:10 am

This is from February, he hasn't made these comments recently.

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ThunderStealer wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:11 am
Prepare for war on our soil. East coast, learn Russian, west coast, learn Chinese, Midwest, learn to make IEDs and how to communicate without a power grid. Putin's not bluffing, he might have tipped his hand on this one.
Only Europe needs to worry about learning Russian. No country will be able to hold territory in the US for long. The Chinese and Russians will quickly learn what the Brits felt like at Dunkirk if they think they can push into the US and succeed.

Twice during the Obama administration Americans bought enough weapons to outfit the entire Russian and Chinese armies. Even if the Russian and Chinese could successfully land 2 million combat troops on American soil which they could never do, they would never be able to hold more than 2 states at best and forget about any of the large ones like Texas or Florida.

They would be dealing with the National Guard and Army units who survive the main attack then the millions of Hunters they would have to deal with picking them off left and right, the organized Militias and so many former military men out roaming around eating them up with hit and run ambushes non stop,,,Where they were not already getting hit non stop with millions upon millions of older teens running around with their pimped out ARs and AKs like they are playing Call of Duty on crack :lol: :lol:

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rudemarine wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:57 pm
ThunderStealer wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:11 am
Prepare for war on our soil. East coast, learn Russian, west coast, learn Chinese, Midwest, learn to make IEDs and how to communicate without a power grid. Putin's not bluffing, he might have tipped his hand on this one.
Only Europe needs to worry about learning Russian. No country will be able to hold territory in the US for long. The Chinese and Russians will quickly learn what the Brits felt like at Dunkirk if they think they can push into the US and succeed.

Twice during the Obama administration Americans bought enough weapons to outfit the entire Russian and Chinese armies. Even if the Russian and Chinese could successfully land 2 million combat troops on American soil which they could never do, they would never be able to hold more than 2 states at best and forget about any of the large ones like Texas or Florida.

They would be dealing with the National Guard and Army units who survive the main attack then the millions of Hunters they would have to deal with picking them off left and right, the organized Militias and so many former military men out roaming around eating them up with hit and run ambushes non stop,,,Where they were not already getting hit non stop with millions upon millions of older teens running around with their pimped out ARs and AKs like they are playing Call of Duty on crack :lol: :lol:
You have missed the point of his warning. The CMC was a *nuclear* crisis, not a conventional one. He has no interest in invading US soil. But he is saying he's willing to walk right up to the brink of a nuclear confrontation with the US and see who blinks first.
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Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:16 pm

Splinters0513 wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:10 am
This is from February, he hasn't made these comments recently.
I don't think his position has changed.

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