No behind-the-wheel toking: New bill bans cannabis use while driving

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No behind-the-wheel toking: New bill bans cannabis use while driving

https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/12/29/ ... e-driving/

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Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:00 am

New? Ummmmm, that article is from 2016. :lol: And either way, you can't drink while driving so why should that be any different?
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Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:05 am

Vet19 should pass on grass and put down the refer!

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Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:45 pm

Or pass me the grass! :mrgreen:
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:36 am

There was a time when Americans believed in freedom.

The US is dying from a million cuts. Part of the reason the USA is a nanny police state now is that whenever there is a problem, the kneejerk reaction in the US is to call for a new law.

Nanny state laws are not the best solution, however. Nanny state laws lead to more laws, higher fines, and tougher sentences. Thirty-five years ago, DWI laws were enacted that led to DWI checkpoints and lower DWI levels. Seatbelt laws led to backseat seatbelt laws, childseat laws, and pet seatbelt laws. Car liability insurance laws led to health insurance laws and gun liability laws. Smoking laws that banned smoking in buildings led to laws against smoking in parks and then bans against smoking in entire cities. Sex offender registration laws led to sex offender restriction laws and violent offender registration laws.

Nanny state laws don't make us safer, either. Nanny state laws lead people to be careless since they don't need to have personal responsibility anymore. People don't need to be careful crossing the street now because drunk-driving has been outlawed and driving while using a mobile phone is illegal. People don't investigate companies or carry out due diligence because businesses must have business licenses now.

The main point of nanny state laws is not safety. The main purposes of more laws are control and revenue generation for the state.

Another reason laws are enacted is because corporations give donations to lawmakers to stifle competition or increase sales.

Many laws are contradictory, too. Some laws say watering lawns is required, while other laws say watering lawns is illegal.

Many nanny state laws that aim to solve a problem can be fixed by using existing laws. If assault is already illegal, why do we need a new law that outlaws hitting umpires?

Do laws even work? Heroin is illegal, but do people still use heroin?

Nanny state laws are not even necessary. If everything was legal would you steal, murder, and use crack cocaine? Aren't there other ways to solve problems besides calling the police? Couldn't people educate or talk to people who bother them? Can't people boycott businesses they hate? Couldn't people be sued for annoying behavior? Couldn't people just move away? Even if assault was legal, wouldn't attackers risk being killed or injured, too? Do people have consciences? Having no laws doesn't mean actions have no consequences.

If there is no victim, there is no crime.

We don't need thousands of laws when we only need 10.

Should swimming pools be banned because they are dangerous? Hammers? Bottles? Rocks? Energy drinks? Pillows?

Where does it end?

If one state can have self-serve gas stations, why can't every state have them? If sodas were legal 20 years ago, why can't they be legal now?

Freedom is not just a one way street. You can only have freedom for yourself if you allow others to have it.

Control freaks might get angry when a neighbor owns three indoor cats, but what did the neighbor take from them? Why should this be illegal? Is outlawing cats something a free country should do? Doesn't banning everything sound like the opposite of liberty?

Instead of getting mad at people who like freedom, why don't people realize that freedom is a two way street?

If you allow others to paint their house purple then you can, too.

If you allow others to own a gun then you can, too.

If you allow others to swear then you can, too.

If you allow others to gamble then you can, too.

Good men don't need laws. Bad men won't obey laws.

Who wants to live in a prison?

Think. Question everything.

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Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:57 am

vet19 wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:36 am
There was a time when Americans believed in freedom.

The US is dying from a million cuts. Part of the reason the USA is a nanny police state now is that whenever there is a problem, the kneejerk reaction in the US is to call for a new law.

Nanny state laws are not the best solution, however. Nanny state laws lead to more laws, higher fines, and tougher sentences. Thirty-five years ago, DWI laws were enacted that led to DWI checkpoints and lower DWI levels. Seatbelt laws led to backseat seatbelt laws, childseat laws, and pet seatbelt laws. Car liability insurance laws led to health insurance laws and gun liability laws. Smoking laws that banned smoking in buildings led to laws against smoking in parks and then bans against smoking in entire cities. Sex offender registration laws led to sex offender restriction laws and violent offender registration laws.

Nanny state laws don't make us safer, either. Nanny state laws lead people to be careless since they don't need to have personal responsibility anymore. People don't need to be careful crossing the street now because drunk-driving has been outlawed and driving while using a mobile phone is illegal. People don't investigate companies or carry out due diligence because businesses must have business licenses now.

The main point of nanny state laws is not safety. The main purposes of more laws are control and revenue generation for the state.

Another reason laws are enacted is because corporations give donations to lawmakers to stifle competition or increase sales.

Many laws are contradictory, too. Some laws say watering lawns is required, while other laws say watering lawns is illegal.

Many nanny state laws that aim to solve a problem can be fixed by using existing laws. If assault is already illegal, why do we need a new law that outlaws hitting umpires?

Do laws even work? Heroin is illegal, but do people still use heroin?

Nanny state laws are not even necessary. If everything was legal would you steal, murder, and use crack cocaine? Aren't there other ways to solve problems besides calling the police? Couldn't people educate or talk to people who bother them? Can't people boycott businesses they hate? Couldn't people be sued for annoying behavior? Couldn't people just move away? Even if assault was legal, wouldn't attackers risk being killed or injured, too? Do people have consciences? Having no laws doesn't mean actions have no consequences.

If there is no victim, there is no crime.

We don't need thousands of laws when we only need 10.

Should swimming pools be banned because they are dangerous? Hammers? Bottles? Rocks? Energy drinks? Pillows?

Where does it end?

If one state can have self-serve gas stations, why can't every state have them? If sodas were legal 20 years ago, why can't they be legal now?

Freedom is not just a one way street. You can only have freedom for yourself if you allow others to have it.

Control freaks might get angry when a neighbor owns three indoor cats, but what did the neighbor take from them? Why should this be illegal? Is outlawing cats something a free country should do? Doesn't banning everything sound like the opposite of liberty?

Instead of getting mad at people who like freedom, why don't people realize that freedom is a two way street?

If you allow others to paint their house purple then you can, too.

If you allow others to own a gun then you can, too.

If you allow others to swear then you can, too.

If you allow others to gamble then you can, too.

Good men don't need laws. Bad men won't obey laws.

Who wants to live in a prison?

Think. Question everything.

http://www.operatorchan.org/n/
Do you really believe this garbage? Do you believe people on this board are so stupid to believe this garbage?

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Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:08 am

Like slaves, Americans beg for their chains.

The elites tell Americans that they don't need freedom and Americans nod their heads and agree that they don't need freedom.

The 1% says that if vaping is not banned, Americans will get cancer.

The elites say that if flag-burning is not banned, Americans will have freedom.

The elites say that churches must be closed because of terrorism.

The elites say that protesting must be banned because protesters will break windows.

The ruling class says that newspapers must be closed because only the government can tell you the truth.

The elites say there must be subsidies or every company will go bankrupt.

The elites say that Americans must be forced to buy insurance or they will not get healthcare.

The 1% says that Americans must get food stamps or everyone will starve to death.

The ruling class say that everyone must be wiretapped, tortured, and groped or there will be terrorism.

The elites say that if withdrawing cash from your own bank account is not banned, Americans will buy drugs.

The elites say that if restaurants are not licensed, businesses would have a vested interest in selling poisoned food.

The elites say that if guns are not banned, Americans will be shot.

The elites say that if everyone does not give DNA samples to the government then little girls will be raped.

The elites say that if hammers are not banned, Americans will have their heads smashed in with hammers.

Americans are so enslaved now that patriots who warn about the dangers of tyranny will be slammed for criticizing the beloved overlords of Americans.

Every country has the government it deserves.

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Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:41 am

All of your posts follow the same pattern: Post a link from a questionable fringe source, then instead of engaging in any discussion, you make further comments that ramble off-topic making wild conspiracy claims with no substantive supporting information. This is getting tiresome.

This is not a site for disillusioned patriots to tell other disillusioned patriots why America is now the epitome of a tyrannical government. If you wish to contribute to this board we welcome your thoughts and opinions, but please support your statements with substance, not stream-of-consciousness ramblings telling us how we're all slaves. Quite frankly, the insinuations you put forth that we are too stupid to analyze the state of the country in which we live is insulting, and I - for one - am tired of reading it.

If you have a point to make, then make it, and support it with solid facts. If you can't do that, then this is probably not the best community for your writings.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them here or PM me.
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:57 am

Americans used to believe in free speech.

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Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:06 am

vet19 wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:57 am
Americans used to believe in free speech.
No, try again.
"It's in your nature to destroy yourselves." - Terminator 2: Judgment Day

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