Admiral Kuznetsov Thread: Week One

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Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:35 am

Interesting; in these cases i described above, or in general for any ship?

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Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:22 pm

TV2 in Norway is reporting that the Russian force has now sailed into the UK economic zone and apparently cancelled its scheduled flight training off the Norwegian Coast:

http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/8669066/

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Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:30 pm

3877DeltaBravo wrote:TV2 in Norway is reporting that the Russian force has now sailed into the UK economic zone and apparently cancelled its scheduled flight training off the Norwegian Coast:

http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/8669066/
Maybe something came up that has pushed then to go ahead of schedule, any news on wether or not the two UK escort ships have rendezvoused with the admiral?

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I want to see British Typhoons and American F-15s buzz the Russian flag ship at Mach 1 like they did to the USN Donald Cook. See if Russia sees the humor in such ignorant actions.

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Does anyone know if the bosphorus is still off-limits to transit by aircraft carrier? I remember reading somewhere that it was against treaty or something, and that is why Russia had deployed a "helicopter carrier" to the black sea.
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Harbinger wrote:Does anyone know if the bosphorus is still off-limits to transit by aircraft carrier? I remember reading somewhere that it was against treaty or something, and that is why Russia had deployed a "helicopter carrier" to the black sea.
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Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:54 pm

jayfeather31 wrote:
Harbinger wrote:Does anyone know if the bosphorus is still off-limits to transit by aircraft carrier? I remember reading somewhere that it was against treaty or something, and that is why Russia had deployed a "helicopter carrier" to the black sea.
...what's the difference?
Apparently enough to allow this through, but not a "real carrier."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moskva-cl ... er_carrier
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Harbinger wrote:Does anyone know if the bosphorus is still off-limits to transit by aircraft carrier? I remember reading somewhere that it was against treaty or something, and that is why Russia had deployed a "helicopter carrier" to the black sea.
Doesn't it have to meet a certain criteria? Perhaps under a certain tonnage? The admiral doesn't have the same extent of Influence as a US carrier (amount of aircraft, resources) for example, and isn't as large. I personally would think the admiral could be categorized as a CVHA(aircraft carrier helicopter assault) or CVG (flight deck cruiser)
The admiral may reside in a type that allows it to go places others can't

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Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:43 pm

SeekerOfTruth wrote:
Harbinger wrote:Does anyone know if the bosphorus is still off-limits to transit by aircraft carrier? I remember reading somewhere that it was against treaty or something, and that is why Russia had deployed a "helicopter carrier" to the black sea.
Doesn't it have to meet a certain criteria? Perhaps under a certain tonnage? The admiral doesn't have the same extent of Influence as a US carrier (amount of aircraft, resources) for example, and isn't as large. I personally would think the admiral could be categorized as a CVHA(aircraft carrier helicopter assault) or CVG (flight deck cruiser)
The admiral may reside in a type that allows it to go places others can't
Yes, my thinking is that the Kuznetsov could be deployed to the Black Sea to deal with Ukraine, and to aid in amphibious landings near transnistria, while the Pyotr Veliky could watch the bosphorus. The group skipping its scheduled flight training might be due to Ukrainian actions recently, including the murder of Motorola. Just because the Russians say it is going to Syria, does not mean it cannot go to Ukraine as well.
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3877DeltaBravo wrote:TV2 in Norway is reporting that the Russian force has now sailed into the UK economic zone and apparently cancelled its scheduled flight training off the Norwegian Coast:

http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/8669066/
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