Hauge Ruling on SCS is in.

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Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:45 am

(Reuters) - China should prepare itself for military confrontation in the South China Sea, an influential Chinese paper said on Tuesday, a week ahead of a decision by an international court on a dispute there between China and the Philippines.

Tensions have been rising ahead of a July 12 ruling by an arbitration court hearing the argument between China and the Philippines over the South China Sea in the Dutch city of The Hague.

In joint editorials in its Chinese and English editions, the state-run Global Times said the dispute, having already been complicated by U.S. intervention, now faces further escalation due to the threat posed by the tribunal to China's sovereignty.

"Washington has deployed two carrier battle groups around the South China Sea, and it wants to send a signal by flexing its muscles: As the biggest powerhouse in the region, it awaits China's obedience," it said.

China should speed up developing its military deterrence abilities, the paper added.

"Even though China cannot keep up with the U.S. militarily in the short-term, it should be able to let the U.S. pay a cost it cannot stand if it intervenes in the South China Sea dispute by force," it said.

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Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:02 am

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Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:49 am

I saw this, and while this is an extreme viewpoint (there's another Reuters article which says this), I almost wonder if the Communist Party orchestrated this. The reason I say this is immediately after this was picked up by Reuters, China said it wants peace in the South China Sea and is willing to talk to the Philippines bilaterally (go figure) if the Philippines ignores the upcoming court decision (also go figure). Manila is unlikely to do this, but that doesn't matter as Beijing got Manila's attention. Manila responded this afternoon by saying the Philippines is willing to talk to China, however the Philippines cannot ignore the court of arbitration's decision.

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Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:24 am

What paper? The website does not give a source.

Also, my Chinese energy security report might be a relevant read, as it (energy security) incorporates a significant chunk of Chinese foreign policy, including part of the reasons why they value the SCS so much.
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Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:41 am

Wasn't there a recent incident involving Chinese aircraft locking radar onto a US ship? USS Donald er something. This was last week..

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Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:35 am

Wait, is China serious? They're seriously going to...?

Thanks for the heads-up. Next thirty-six hours will be a doozy.
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:53 am

"in case of provocative action"!

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Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:46 am

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/993789.shtml

https://www.rt.com/news/350756-south-china-sea-hague/

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-south ... SKCN0ZS02U


So, while expected, it would appear that China's view on the ruling -also expected- is that it's null and void, and they have declared that they'll continue on as they please. Looking to be a tense time in the SCS region until the Chinese exercises conclude, now, at the least.
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:39 pm

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An international tribunal in the Hague ruled in favor of the Philippines in a maritime dispute Tuesday, concluding that there was no legal basis for China to claim historic rights to the bulk of the South China Sea.

China rejected the decision by the Permanent Court of Arbitration, which is likely to have lasting implications for the resource-rich hot spot, which includes one of the world's busiest sea lanes.
"China neither accepts nor recognizes it," the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement.
In a statement released straight after the ruling, the Philippines government said it "strongly affirms its respect for this milestone decision as an important contribution to ongoing disputes in the South China Sea."
The Tribunal concluded that China's doesn't have the right to marine resources within its "nine dash line," which extends hundreds of miles to the south and east of its island province of Hainan and covers some 90% of the disputed waters.
Natalie Klein, an international law professor at Macquarie Law School in Australia, said the ruling was a "decisive win" for the Philippines.

The Tribunal also found the none of the sea features claimed by China were capable of generating an Exclusive Economic Zone -- which gives country maritime rights to resources such as fish, and oil and gas within 200 nautical miles of that land mass.
It deemed they were rocks or low-tide elevations such as reefs, rather than islands.

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Because China had no rights to the area as an Exclusive Economic Zone, the tribunal found that some of its activities in the region were in breach of the Philippines' sovereign rights.
China had violated those rights by interfering in fishing and oil exploration, constructing artificial islands and failing to stop Chinese fisherman from fishing the zone, the ruling said.
The panel found China had caused "severe harm" to coral around the site of its artificial islands. It had also "violated its obligation to preserve and protect fragile ecosystems."
Chinese fisherman had also killed endangered sea turtles and giant clams "on a substantial scale" -- with the full knowledge of China, the tribunal found.
Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/12/asia/ ... china-sea/

(Also, I don't want to be "that guy" but the spelling of The Hague is wrong)
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