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Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:34 am

At least give people the option to change it, please.

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Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:38 am

hrng wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:11 am
Lime green = bad in any design.
Oh I can fix that. The green is simply meant to be the alert colour. It will change when the alert changes. So now the message board is themed to the alert condition.

It's currently set for #00ff00, which is green, which is the same (I think) for the main page. But I can make it a different, more pleasing green if you'd like. Maybe a darker hue?

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Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:42 am

RiffRaff wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:34 am
That is absolutely true for printed text. When dealing with a computer screen, however, white text on black background is much easier on the eyes and leads to much less strain.
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https://www.quora.com/Which-is-better-f ... sepia-mode
DEFCONWarningSystem wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:38 am
Oh I can fix that. The green is simply meant to be the alert colour. It will change when the alert changes. So now the message board is themed to the alert condition.

It's currently set for #00ff00, which is green, which is the same (I think) for the main page. But I can make it a different, more pleasing green if you'd like. Maybe a darker hue?
Tbh, I'd say keep the alert colour to the header, and have a consistent and easy to read theme throughout the site.

You'll have too much trouble trying to find colours that work at every level. E.g. Blue or red on black is hard to see, and that's not even considering how colour blind people would perceive it.

Consistency is key with theming :)

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Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:58 am

hrng wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:42 am
RiffRaff wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:34 am
That is absolutely true for printed text. When dealing with a computer screen, however, white text on black background is much easier on the eyes and leads to much less strain.
https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/ ... r-the-eyes

https://tatham.blog/2008/10/13/why-ligh ... -bad-idea/

https://www.quora.com/Which-is-better-f ... sepia-mode
Don't quote scientific research with me! I've got my gut to tell me what's right!

In all seriousness, though, all three of those articles quote the same study, so effectively only one single reference. However, I can see their point. (Pun intended.)
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Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:00 am

hrng wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:42 am
You'll have too much trouble trying to find colours that work at every level. E.g. Blue or red on black is hard to see, and that's not even considering how colour blind people would perceive it.
I am one of those colour blind people. This new theme is wonderful for me! :D :D :D

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Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:04 am

I agree, keep the color theme to the header and stick to black and white for the body of the site. Maybe do the frames in the header color, but NOT the highlighted text, it's really hard to read. Also, give people the option of black on white or white on black. I have the feeling that those of us who grew up entirely with print media are more comfortable with black on white, regardless of whether it's better for our eyes or not.

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Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:15 am

RiffRaff wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:58 am
Don't quote scientific research with me! I've got my gut to tell me what's right!

In all seriousness, though, all three of those articles quote the same study, so effectively only one single reference. However, I can see their point. (Pun intended.)
:D

Good point, though it's something I've seen anecdotally before, too. I'd say a lot of it comes down to individuals. In my line of work, everyone styles their terminal differently and most of us are working on terminals all day. I generally go for a grey of about 60-70% darkness with a white or grey of about 10% darkness. Too much contrast makes the words bleed together for me - too little contrast and I'm straining my eyes. I don't know anyone that chooses to go with the classic "hacker movie" style of green terminals ;)
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Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:00 am
I am one of those colour blind people. This new theme is wonderful for me! :D :D :D
Curious - how visible is your username's colour against the background? For me it's fairly bright, with decent contrast, but the colour makes it bleed a bit and confuses my eyes. I can feel my eye repeatedly searching focus to figure out where the text is.

I dunno how accurate this site is: https://www.toptal.com/designers/colorfilter , but the yellow it shows on protanopia is kinda nice. Slightly desaturated and slightly darkened, lowers the contrast enough that it doesn't draw focus unnecessarily without compromising legibility. The background or text colour on the primary buttons does need changing though.

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Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:44 am

hrng wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:15 am
RiffRaff wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:58 am
Don't quote scientific research with me! I've got my gut to tell me what's right!

In all seriousness, though, all three of those articles quote the same study, so effectively only one single reference. However, I can see their point. (Pun intended.)
:D

Good point, though it's something I've seen anecdotally before, too. I'd say a lot of it comes down to individuals. In my line of work, everyone styles their terminal differently and most of us are working on terminals all day. I generally go for a grey of about 60-70% darkness with a white or grey of about 10% darkness. Too much contrast makes the words bleed together for me - too little contrast and I'm straining my eyes. I don't know anyone that chooses to go with the classic "hacker movie" style of green terminals ;)
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Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:01 am

DEFCONWarningSystem wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:00 am
hrng wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:42 am
You'll have too much trouble trying to find colours that work at every level. E.g. Blue or red on black is hard to see, and that's not even considering how colour blind people would perceive it.
I am one of those colour blind people. This new theme is wonderful for me! :D :D :D
I also agree with that statement the old theme wasn't perfect for people like us, to put it kindly.
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Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:48 pm

I like to read the forums by active topic. I'm not seeing a way to select that now. I can get it by using links from my browser history...

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