USS Mason Fired on for Third Time This Month

Post a reply

Smilies
:D :) ;) :( :o :shock: :? 8-) :lol: :x :P :oops: :cry: :evil: :twisted: :roll: :!: :?: :idea: :arrow: :| :mrgreen: :geek: :ugeek:

BBCode is ON
[img] is ON
[flash] is OFF
[url] is ON
Smilies are ON

Topic review
   

Expand view Topic review: USS Mason Fired on for Third Time This Month

Re: USS Mason Fired on for Third Time This Month

by kilo365 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:17 am

rudemarine wrote:
krzepice1976 wrote:
bevans13 wrote:What I do not understand is that if the rebels are the ones shooting at our destroyer, why would they release two Americans?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... /92151086/
Pentagon is not surę who press triger.
For navy a good drill and chance to chęck all.
Hopefully nobosy used nsm missle against aegis ... It could be a big challange for aegis as the missle is sea skimmer and stelah.
Pretty sure the Aegis system can track it from where it was fired from, given its boosted up and away before the turbine takes it down to sea level, launch a drone to watch and put a few Tomahawks on the bad guys.

Given it was a former U.S. ship that was blown to bits and now all this it does seem very fishy to me. We should have been given a cool video of our ships defending themselves by now, even some by the enemy.
If the Aegis system is anything like our AEWAS in Alaska. It can detect a golf ball at 7,000+ miles.  and pretty much hypothesize its origin and lauched velocity to determine what put it into the air.

Re: USS Mason Fired on for Third Time This Month

by rudemarine » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:32 am

Harbinger wrote:
As for no evidence to suggest a FF event, I can provide this video, where the head of the Washington Institute's Iran Security Initiative, Director for Research at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, and senior editor of Middle East Quarterly, talks about FF's to start a war with Iran and saying "We are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians. We could get nastier at that."

.
All while Obama pays them a billion to succeed against us lol. Bob Baer said you can not beat the one of the oldest nations on earth at chess. Every time we have tried, we have been embarrassed. The only way is Trumps way, when a guy pulls a knife, you pull a gun. When Iran shoots three missiles at us we should bomb their navy into new Coral reefs.

Re: USS Mason Fired on for Third Time This Month

by Harbinger » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:53 pm

The US is bound by the petrodollar recycling agreement to come to military aid of Saudi Arabia. Sometimes you must have a reason. Apparently, the Houtis or Iranians, against their best interest, have provided that reason.

As for no evidence to suggest a FF event, I can provide this video, where the head of the Washington Institute's Iran Security Initiative, Director for Research at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, and senior editor of Middle East Quarterly, talks about FF's to start a war with Iran and saying "We are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians. We could get nastier at that."

The video speaks for itself.



There is, however, no direct evidence to suggest these attacks were anything other than what western media is reporting them as, other than motive. I'm certain that it is all a big coincidence, any nobody should in any way question the veracity of our claims that we were attacked by Iranian sponsored groups. Anyone who, in light of this evidence, still questions our claims is clearly wrong or has been woefully misled.

Re: USS Mason Fired on for Third Time This Month

by rudemarine » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:19 pm

krzepice1976 wrote:
bevans13 wrote:What I do not understand is that if the rebels are the ones shooting at our destroyer, why would they release two Americans?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... /92151086/
Pentagon is not surę who press triger.
For navy a good drill and chance to chęck all.
Hopefully nobosy used nsm missle against aegis ... It could be a big challange for aegis as the missle is sea skimmer and stelah.
Pretty sure the Aegis system can track it from where it was fired from, given its boosted up and away before the turbine takes it down to sea level, launch a drone to watch and put a few Tomahawks on the bad guys.

Given it was a former U.S. ship that was blown to bits and now all this it does seem very fishy to me. We should have been given a cool video of our ships defending themselves by now, even some by the enemy.

Re: USS Mason Fired on for Third Time This Month

by DirtyDevil69 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:52 pm

ThunderStealer wrote:
kilo365 wrote:
ThunderStealer wrote:
Warning shots are typical in the Navy. It makes propaganda that is ripe for domestic consumption when they shoot at us and we don't return fire. In Afghanistan, we wore a patch that said ISAF, which we joked stood for Insurgents Shoot Americans Flee. Or, I Saw Americans Fight, or my favorite, I Screwed Afghanistans Future.

Hey, what's the difference between Mars and Afghanistan? Mars has a future.

Back on topic, if Iran hit, it'd be an open declaration of war and they don't want that. The propaganda is worth it's weight in gold for less cost.
Mine is... I Shoot At Friendlies .. yeah.. inside jokes lol..
no friendlies were harmed on my deployment.
:lol:
Friendly fire isnt.

Re: USS Mason Fired on for Third Time This Month

by ThunderStealer » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:58 pm

kilo365 wrote:
ThunderStealer wrote:
amerisafe wrote:Has these missile attacks coming from Yemen been confirmed coming from iran or houthi? Could this be a false flag attempt ? Considering what we all know about the propaganda machine in the us and that everything that comes out of the us press and govt officials lately I havent seen one thing that would prove that Iran/Houthi are firing these missiles. Especially missing the ships., I dont feel that Iran would miss its target.
Warning shots are typical in the Navy. It makes propaganda that is ripe for domestic consumption when they shoot at us and we don't return fire. In Afghanistan, we wore a patch that said ISAF, which we joked stood for Insurgents Shoot Americans Flee. Or, I Saw Americans Fight, or my favorite, I Screwed Afghanistans Future.

Hey, what's the difference between Mars and Afghanistan? Mars has a future.

Back on topic, if Iran hit, it'd be an open declaration of war and they don't want that. The propaganda is worth it's weight in gold for less cost.
Mine is... I Shoot At Friendlies .. yeah.. inside jokes lol..
no friendlies were harmed on my deployment.
:lol:

Re: USS Mason Fired on for Third Time This Month

by TheArtist » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:25 pm

Can we please hold off on the False Flag talk? Not everything in the world is some conspiracy to get us into a war. There are plenty of people in this world that hate the US that we don't have to organize attacks on ourselves.

Furthermore, I'm quite irritated by the recent articles saying our best guess at the DEFCON level is based on our conspiracy theories. It's not. We do our very best to avoid CT and TFN.

We understand the world has been littered by "False Flags" like the USS Liberty and the Gulf of Tonkin. But ships off the coast of Yemen getting what seems is now sustained and repeated attacks does not show any signs of a FF. And even if those attacking our ships happen to be using US made weapons to carry out those attacks doesn't really mean anything either. We've sold an awful lot of stuff over the years. There's no telling whom has what.

What we generally most interested in is the WHATs and HOWs and WHENs of events, not really the WHYs. Not everyone is a paid Russian or HRC shill or whatever.

So, please, let's keep the discussion (and this post is already too much on the subject) already concise and limited to facts as best as we can attain them.

Re: USS Mason Fired on for Third Time This Month

by krzepice1976 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:52 am

bevans13 wrote:What I do not understand is that if the rebels are the ones shooting at our destroyer, why would they release two Americans?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... /92151086/
Pentagon is not surę who press triger.
For navy a good drill and chance to chęck all.
Hopefully nobosy used nsm missle against aegis ... It could be a big challange for aegis as the missle is sea skimmer and stelah.

Re: USS Mason Fired on for Third Time This Month

by kilo365 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:34 am

ThunderStealer wrote:
amerisafe wrote:Has these missile attacks coming from Yemen been confirmed coming from iran or houthi? Could this be a false flag attempt ? Considering what we all know about the propaganda machine in the us and that everything that comes out of the us press and govt officials lately I havent seen one thing that would prove that Iran/Houthi are firing these missiles. Especially missing the ships., I dont feel that Iran would miss its target.
Warning shots are typical in the Navy. It makes propaganda that is ripe for domestic consumption when they shoot at us and we don't return fire. In Afghanistan, we wore a patch that said ISAF, which we joked stood for Insurgents Shoot Americans Flee. Or, I Saw Americans Fight, or my favorite, I Screwed Afghanistans Future.

Hey, what's the difference between Mars and Afghanistan? Mars has a future.

Back on topic, if Iran hit, it'd be an open declaration of war and they don't want that. The propaganda is worth it's weight in gold for less cost.
Mine is... I Shoot At Friendlies .. yeah.. inside jokes lol..
no friendlies were harmed on my deployment.

Re: USS Mason Fired on for Third Time This Month

by kilo365 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:31 am

Oxcart138 wrote:
SeekerOfTruth wrote:
rudemarine wrote:How long will this play out as the distraction for Hillary and Obama's worthlessness?

https://twitter.com/rjjoconnell/status/ ... 7360266241
We are there as support in response of the destruction of an ally country's ship, we are respecting our regional allies by being there to help, we are putting our ships and men in the line of fire, with our ships being attacked of course we would retaliate (Obama more than likely authorized the retaliation) we are defending the integrity of our country by not letting anyone push us around, would you rather us not retaliate? It would be an embarrassment to our armed forces and our country if we didn't, so why say the word "worthless"?

So what would Reagan do if he was POTUS? I think he would have unleashed hell after the 1st attack to take away the capability of launching . Obama waited and waited.. then fires 3 at them with little effect.
I think Obama is being tactful. We could easily send a drone up with a MOAB follow the idgits via FLIR. wait until they gather then. pop BOOOOOM.! crunchy skin ripped off the bones.
We basically have way bigger fish to fry.

personally a simple wet deployment upon shore, let old rusty sit as bait. hunt the target/targets. Destroy weaponry, confiscate coms, intel. nobody the wiser.

Top