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Re: Russian and US warships 'nearly collide' in 'dangerous' and 'unsafe' manoeuvring

by Erecon » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:09 am

They can ram each other all day long, no bear, tiger or eagle will wage war over that.

Re: Russian and US warships 'nearly collide' in 'dangerous' and 'unsafe' manoeuvring

by CreepyMonkey » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:05 am

ThunderStealer wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:58 am
CreepyMonkey wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:10 am
There's no way any Russia/China alliance will stick. They might give the appearance of being allied, but they fear and distrust one another almost as much as they fear and mistrust the US. In the long run this is much ado about not much.
I disagree. They're bro's apparently. Xi's words, not mine. War's coming to this country. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48537663
Respectfully, war is always coming to the US. It always has. It always will. This is no different a threat then the US has ever faced.

I'm not saying any conflict fought between a Russia/China alliance wouldn't be devastating to all sides; what I am saying is, There is nothing tying them together to come against the US except for their own geo-political interests, and frankly those clash. In the end, they have no ideological, religious or strong political reason to stick together in an alliance vs. the US. One thing you can count on both Russia and China to do is look out for their own interests. In the long run, they are rivals and will always remain so.
rudemarine wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:59 pm
Unless they launch a lot of nukes our way they would be awaking a sleeping Tiger.
Also...this. This for sure.

Re: Russian and US warships 'nearly collide' in 'dangerous' and 'unsafe' manoeuvring

by rudemarine » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:59 pm

ThunderStealer wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:58 am
CreepyMonkey wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:10 am
There's no way any Russia/China alliance will stick. They might give the appearance of being allied, but they fear and distrust one another almost as much as they fear and mistrust the US. In the long run this is much ado about not much.
I disagree. They're bro's apparently. Xi's words, not mine. War's coming to this country. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48537663
Unless they launch a lot of nukes our way they would be awaking a sleeping Tiger. The American people bought more guns in one year than the whole Chinese and Russian military combined. We dont spray and pray. They would be quickly pinned down everywhere by hundreds of thousands snipers who have been training for decades not a few years. They would quickly learn to hate the American hunters LMAO.

They would probably make it a 100 miles in land in many city slicker areas like NY and LA but thats where they would be stopped. Their ranks would quickly fall apart and the average commie would be in full retreat with no means of getting off the beach to go home.

Re: Russian and US warships 'nearly collide' in 'dangerous' and 'unsafe' manoeuvring

by ThunderStealer » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:10 am

Obreid wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:44 am
They will always be distrustful to a degree. If for no other reason Russians risk of being invaded over resources


ThunderStealer wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:58 am
CreepyMonkey wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:10 am
There's no way any Russia/China alliance will stick. They might give the appearance of being allied, but they fear and distrust one another almost as much as they fear and mistrust the US. In the long run this is much ado about not much.
I disagree. They're bro's apparently. Xi's words, not mine. War's coming to this country. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48537663
Yeah, but times change, and people change. The days of the Chinese and the Russkies bickering over who is more of a Marxist purist has gone by the wayside. This is a new game, with new ends in mind. Their distrust is no different than our distrust of our allies, it's simply cautionary. I think with these two, it's a bromance comprised of some serious cross-cultural eye contact, and a hatred for the US. They want the Red World Order, and they want to be in charge with the US out of the game entirely, if not completely occupied.

Re: Russian and US warships 'nearly collide' in 'dangerous' and 'unsafe' manoeuvring

by Obreid » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:44 am

They will always be distrustful to a degree. If for no other reason Russians risk of being invaded over resources


ThunderStealer wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:58 am
CreepyMonkey wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:10 am
There's no way any Russia/China alliance will stick. They might give the appearance of being allied, but they fear and distrust one another almost as much as they fear and mistrust the US. In the long run this is much ado about not much.
I disagree. They're bro's apparently. Xi's words, not mine. War's coming to this country. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48537663

Re: Russian and US warships 'nearly collide' in 'dangerous' and 'unsafe' manoeuvring

by ThunderStealer » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:58 am

CreepyMonkey wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:10 am
There's no way any Russia/China alliance will stick. They might give the appearance of being allied, but they fear and distrust one another almost as much as they fear and mistrust the US. In the long run this is much ado about not much.
I disagree. They're bro's apparently. Xi's words, not mine. War's coming to this country. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48537663

Re: Russian and US warships 'nearly collide' in 'dangerous' and 'unsafe' manoeuvring

by CreepyMonkey » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:10 am

There's no way any Russia/China alliance will stick. They might give the appearance of being allied, but they fear and distrust one another almost as much as they fear and mistrust the US. In the long run this is much ado about not much.

Re: Russian and US warships 'nearly collide' in 'dangerous' and 'unsafe' manoeuvring

by Obreid » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:36 am

We almost always ask ourselves when incidents like this happen is this the one that almost flung us into a shooting war.
Truth is we’ll never know until the kinetic exchange begins, and then.........

Re: Russian and US warships 'nearly collide' in 'dangerous' and 'unsafe' manoeuvring

by rudemarine » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:44 pm

Yingyang wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:27 pm
rudemarine wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:11 pm
Yingyang wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:33 pm
Next will be a Russian ship on the left and Chinese ship on the right. And then ?
Do you really think they will try that stunt? The US Navy has dealt with these little childish games by the Soviets before, multiple ramming s in the Black Sea that nearly sunk the little Russian boats. The US Navy speaks softly and it carries the biggest stick. We could get very violent and load out every ship with tons of nuclear weapons each but we haven't !
And yes this sort of thing has always happenened. I just see different situation. A new one . New and bigger challenge being presented unlike history before.
Unlike before? Your joking right? Several time the Russians have actually Rammed the USS Yorktown and Cason in the Black Sea. They also tossed Hand Grenades to mimic depth charges on our Subs to keep them under to the point where they almost started a real shooting war. Although it looked like he wanted to ram the US ship, he smartly avoided it knowing Trump might fly off the handle order the US Captain to sink his Russian destroyer. Only a dam fool puts his ship that close to a USN Cruiser that is meant to destroy anything and everything on the high seas. The US Captain could have tore the brige of the Russian ship to shreds with CIWS before the Russian captain could have said Oh Crap.

Re: Russian and US warships 'nearly collide' in 'dangerous' and 'unsafe' manoeuvring

by Yingyang » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:27 pm

rudemarine wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:11 pm
Yingyang wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:33 pm
Next will be a Russian ship on the left and Chinese ship on the right. And then ?
Do you really think they will try that stunt? The US Navy has dealt with these little childish games by the Soviets before, multiple ramming s in the Black Sea that nearly sunk the little Russian boats. The US Navy speaks softly and it carries the biggest stick. We could get very violent and load out every ship with tons of nuclear weapons each but we haven't !
And yes this sort of thing has always happenened. I just see different situation. A new one . New and bigger challenge being presented unlike history before.

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