Russia threatens Kyiv with war if Ukrainian ships attempt to pass through the Kerch Strait

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Re: Russia threatens Kyiv with war if Ukrainian ships attempt to pass through the Kerch Strait

by Obreid » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:34 am

It’s an impressive piece of weaponry, more military power rolled up in one carrier group than most nations entire military.

It can influence the direction of an entire continent.

Also one or two well placed or lucky anti-ship missles can mean the deaths of thousands of Americans and untold cost financially and geopoliticaly.

We can only hope they use them well and wisely.

Re: Russia threatens Kyiv with war if Ukrainian ships attempt to pass through the Kerch Strait

by catalystman » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:11 am

Not much muscle if it's in the West Atlantic instead of the Med.

Will pass the straights of Gibraltar and be in Spanish waters by Monday. Pretty sure the "Ferrying" distance for the Super Hornets is over 3,000KM... a couple of airfields in Ukraine where they can land to refuel so about 100 jets within range and many of the guided missiles will reach... that strike group has a long arm...

"will operate in the Mediterranean Sea before progressing towards the Persian Gulf"

https://navaltoday.com/2019/04/09/us-ai ... in-europe/

Re: Russia threatens Kyiv with war if Ukrainian ships attempt to pass through the Kerch Strait

by RiffRaff » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:14 pm

catalystman wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:09 pm
RiffRaff wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:52 am
Response from Ukraine or NATO?
https://www.majorcadailybulletin.com/ne ... palma.html

:lol: how many sub's this thing have with it and what are their capabilities? given what it is loaded up with(to the teeth with hardware and personnel) and given the current climate it would be my uneducated guess it has at least 1 off bow, 1 off port, 1 off starboard and a few off stern... much logistics and quite the few Ballistic and Guided Missiles in that entourage...definitely NATO have a muscle to flex...
Not much muscle if it's in the West Atlantic instead of the Med.

Re: Russia threatens Kyiv with war if Ukrainian ships attempt to pass through the Kerch Strait

by catalystman » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:09 pm

RiffRaff wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:52 am
Response from Ukraine or NATO?
https://www.majorcadailybulletin.com/ne ... palma.html

:lol: how many sub's this thing have with it and what are their capabilities? given what it is loaded up with(to the teeth with hardware and personnel) and given the current climate it would be my uneducated guess it has at least 1 off bow, 1 off port, 1 off starboard and a few off stern... much logistics and quite the few Ballistic and Guided Missiles in that entourage...definitely NATO have a muscle to flex...

Re: Russia threatens Kyiv with war if Ukrainian ships attempt to pass through the Kerch Strait

by RiffRaff » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:52 am

Response from Ukraine or NATO?

Russia threatens Kyiv with war if Ukrainian ships attempt to pass through the Kerch Strait

by DEFCONWarningSystem » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:19 am

In a statement released by the Federation Council, Moscow threatened to take military action against Kyiv for violating procedures for the passage of Ukrainian Navy ships through the Kerch Strait, reports TASS.

Russia believes that the passage of ships through the Kerch Strait is not a question of NATO’s presence in the Black Sea, but of Ukraine’s fulfillment of its obligations “which are well established and have been successfully implemented since November 2018,” that is, before the Russian capture of Ukrainian sailors.

“Ukraine’s attempts to bypass these procedures carry the risk of a military conflict between Ukraine and the Russian Federation in which NATO may also be involved,” the Federation Council’s statement reads.

The Federation Council claimed that NATO’s support to Ukraine, and in 2008 its support to Georgia, “encouraged the administrations of these two countries, which are sure of their impunity, to seek new adventures”.

However, Russian senators do not exclude the possibility that negotiations between the Kremlin and the North Atlantic Alliance could improve a worsening situation.

“One can only regret that the previously existing formats and channels of communication were curtailed unilaterally by NATO. Cooperation in a number of security areas that would safeguard the interests of all Euro-Atlantic states was completely discontinued,” the Federation Council complained.

On 25 November last year, Russia attacked and captured the Ukrainian military boats Berdyansk and Nikopol and the tugboat Yany Kapu in neutral waters. All 24 Ukrainians on board were accused of violating the Russian state border, arrested, and transferred from Kerch to Moscow. Ukraine considered this an act of military aggression, and the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe recognized the captured sailors as prisoners of war.
http://uawire.org/russia-threatens-kyiv ... rch-strait

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