That itself is not an argument to not seek societal optimization & preservation though, mental illness obviously decreases if root causes of it are eliminated or lessened, social cohesion & health used to be referred to as common sense. Crime & terrorism do not just happen without reason, there are many causes, again this is merely common sense.Worldwatcher wrote:It's easier said then done I'm afraid, and terrorists can come from ALL facets of society.
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If it is common sense; what then, is your solution?Zanting wrote:That itself is not an argument to not seek societal optimization & preservation though, mental illness obviously decreases if root causes of it are eliminated or lessened, social cohesion & health used to be referred to as common sense. Crime & terrorism do not just happen without reason, there are many causes, again this is merely common sense.Worldwatcher wrote:It's easier said then done I'm afraid, and terrorists can come from ALL facets of society.
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I agree, in well functioning society, terrorism and to a lesser extent crime would be at lower rates, although, there is a fine line having between an "optimal society" and something far more dangerous...Zanting wrote:That itself is not an argument to not seek societal optimization & preservation though, mental illness obviously decreases if root causes of it are eliminated or lessened, social cohesion & health used to be referred to as common sense. Crime & terrorism do not just happen without reason, there are many causes, again this is merely common sense.Worldwatcher wrote:It's easier said then done I'm afraid, and terrorists can come from ALL facets of society.
I fear this is getting too off topic though.
"There's a cold war coming,
On the radio I heard
Baby it's a violent world"
- Coldplay, Life In Technicolor II
On the radio I heard
Baby it's a violent world"
- Coldplay, Life In Technicolor II
Take responsibility and use common sense.jayfeather31 wrote:If it is common sense; what then, is your solution?
I usually do not use metaphors.Worldwatcher wrote:I agree, in well functioning society, terrorism and to a lesser extent crime would be at lower rates, although, there is a fine line having between an "optimal society" and something far more dangerous...
I fear this is getting too off topic though.
If you can imagine society as an engine block, what we used to seek as the highest ideal could be construed as the cylinder bore, but an outside force has struck a defect or fracture in our block so that if we go too far now the engine will stop working entirely. If we keep using this engine we will eventually destroy ourselves as all modifications or temporary fixes do not address the cracked foundation which holds everything together, it is not how we are or were meant to go forward, we need a new engine basically.
There isn't much to discuss with the knife attack though so I don't mind discussing this.
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I've continued this in a General Discussion thread:Zanting wrote:-snip-
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6117&p=55409#p55409
"There's a cold war coming,
On the radio I heard
Baby it's a violent world"
- Coldplay, Life In Technicolor II
On the radio I heard
Baby it's a violent world"
- Coldplay, Life In Technicolor II
10-4.Worldwatcher wrote:I've continued this in a General Discussion thread:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6117&p=55409#p55409
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