DOD flies experimental hypersonic payload; claims success, technological advances

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Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:46 pm

The Pentagon successfully demonstrated a hypersonic glide vehicle Oct. 30, lofting an experimental payload on a rocket from Hawaii that -- during its ultra-fast, unpowered flight to the Marshall Islands across the upper reaches of the atmosphere over the Pacific Ocean -- verified technological advances relevant to a potential future U.S. military hypersonic strike system
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Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:24 am

If this is the cutting edge in our hypersonic technology then we are lagging badly behind China and even Russia.

However I’ve past heard Lockheed talk about hypersonic jets and so I suspect there are US black projects that exceed any public revelations.

On this technology I believe we have the lead of A few years.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/militar ... -aircraft/

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Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:08 am

Questor213 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:24 am
If this is the cutting edge in our hypersonic technology then we are lagging badly behind China and even Russia.

However I’ve past heard Lockheed talk about hypersonic jets and so I suspect there are US black projects that exceed any public revelations.

On this technology I believe we have the lead of A few years.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/militar ... -aircraft/
I thought china was still testing HSG vehicles in wind tunnels? Did I miss something.

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Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:14 pm

Obreid wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:08 am
Questor213 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:24 am
If this is the cutting edge in our hypersonic technology then we are lagging badly behind China and even Russia.

However I’ve past heard Lockheed talk about hypersonic jets and so I suspect there are US black projects that exceed any public revelations.

On this technology I believe we have the lead of A few years.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/militar ... -aircraft/
I thought china was still testing HSG vehicles in wind tunnels? Did I miss something.
What we did a few days ago, China did successfully seven times between 2012 and 2016.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WU-14

Here's the Russian version:

https://thediplomat.com/tag/yu-71-hyper ... e-vehicle/

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Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:41 pm

Those are all hypersonic glide weapons, though. Basically an unpowered re-entry vehicle falling from space. Dangerous yes, but not nearly as complicated as what we've spent a long time working on: a powered cruised missile that can fly at sub sonic, super sonic, and hypersonic speeds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-51_Waverider

This weapon has a long test history of failures and then once success. After that, I didn't hear any more about it. I suspect that much progress has been made without any announcements.

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Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:48 pm

This weapon has a long test history of failures and then once success. After that, I didn't hear any more about it. I suspect that much progress has been made without any announcements.


We will hope!!

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Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:53 pm

Yeah, i'm on the same page as most of the rest of ya...Pretty sure we've been in hard core development of a range of hypersonic vehicles, both manned and unmanned for some time now. I know back in 2009 I witnessed SOME sort of aircraft kick on it's civilian airspace lights on as it passed over Albuquerque New Mexico. It was about 0300 or so, and was roughly on a bearing of 250-280. The bloody damned thing transited almost a full 180 degree arc of the sky over my head in about 11 seconds before going dark again once it was out of the civilian flightlanes. Though I can't imagine commercial aircraft flying at that altitude, which was admittedly hard to eyeball mark one that early in the AM(we all know how hard it can be to determine relative altitude on an aircraft from the ground at night)...But i'm going to guess was at least at a cruising altitude of 60,000 feet.
That, coupled with a lot of the (purported) expansions of the underground airbase at Groom Lake. Which only makes sense if you've got more than a few craft capable of quarterbacking a football you positively, absolutely have to deliver worldwide within two and a half hours....

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Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:12 am

There was this sat image on the web several years ago being purported to show a contrail originating in NM or W Texas heading almost due east in straight line basically leaving heading off over Atlantic off Carolinas. Yes I am conspiracy territory I'm just having fun. I wouldn't know how to interpret a contrail on a sat image. Proported to show a hypersonic vehicle igniting the ram jet engines in NM and traveling so fast it left a straight contrail to the E coast.
Who would have believed in the eighties that tech could enable them to land and reuse booster stages from a space launch. Space ex just landed two or three stages from their first heavy lift rocket last week. At the same location I believe, but not positive

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