Get Ready – Here Comes Nuclear North Korea

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Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:57 pm

Just a few days earlier, we issued a DEFCON update which cautioned that – just because North Korea was out of the news – North Korea had not stopped developing its nuclear programme.

It didn’t take long for that warning to be shown to be true.

On November 28, 2017, North Korea tested a missile with a theoretical range that would put the entire continental United States within its reach. More frighteningly, North Korea claims it was loaded with a test load simulating the weight of a nuclear warhead. If this is true, North Korea’s claims would seem to be valid.

There is some good news to be had. Some have theorized that North Korea purposed the recent test to ensure the least possible chance of a military response by the United States. They didn’t shoot it over Japan, they didn’t shoot it near a U.S. territory like Guam, and they have not gone ahead with a threatened atmospheric test of a nuclear weapon.

Nevertheless, this also should remove any doubt that North Korea is continuing their nuclear development.

The partial destruction of their Punggye-ri Nuclear Test Site has slowed them down. They will be unable to do any more underground testing until they repair the site. At the moment, they are working on a secondary wing. Once complete, they can resume nuclear testing. Some experts believe that North Korea has passed the point of needing to conduct any further underground testing, and further developments can be done simply by computer.

This brings us to the question that has hamstrung the world: How do you stop North Korea?

The simple fact of the matter is: You can’t.

Sanctions won’t work. North Korea is remarkably resilient at resisting sanctions. The country places no value on its citizens, and even low-level military personnel are sacrificed for the State. The citizenry is so brainwashed by propaganda that they have no idea that there is a better alternative. All they know is what they are told, and they are told that things are great and that the Outside World is Evil. What else would someone in their position do besides sacrifice?

Of course, North Korea has help beating the sanctions. China imposes sanctions but helps North Korea get around some of them. Russia also is a hole in the sanctions barrier. Then there is Iran as well, both helping and benefiting from North Korea in their own pursuit of nuclear weapons.

So if not sanctions, then what?

You have either war or a nuclear North Korea. Is either choice acceptable?

Go to war and you have South Korea a tasty target, with millions in the bull’e-eye. The United States itself can come under attack. Everyone has waited so long to stop North Korea that it is now too late. Even if a missile lobbed by North Korea is inaccurate, a nuclear detonation off target is not really much better than a direct hit.

South Korea doesn’t want to attack. The United States can’t attack without enduring the condemnation of the world, the loss of South Korea, and conflict with China.

The choices are few:

Accept a Nuclear North Korea or…or what?

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Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:18 pm

Accepting nuclear NK
Move our troops to Japan or home entirely and give nukes to them if they want.

China and Russia wanted to playfootsie with DPRK. Let them live with the results on their boarder with multiple nuclear armed countries and a remilitarzation of Japan and who knows who else. Just get our troops out of direct line of fire.

If SK doesn't want to have a backbone with us then let them stand alone.

The end result of this will be a missile tech boom with each country developing farther and faster deliveries systems and the spread of nukes.

Or we stay in SK and continue working towards denuclearization of NK.
Nukes in SK Japan and even pos Taiwan is the only real tool left to leverage China and Russia.

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Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:28 pm

Agreed US needs to pull out, let that entire region fend for itself and do as it pleases. Let China and Russia deal with a massive militarization build up across all boards right on their door steps.

Whatever happens happens we can fully say we tried so not our problem anymore.
There is a war on woman! #VoteThemOut

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Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:32 am

How silly would it be to suggest that South Korea perhaps seek annexation from China following the removal of US presence in their country? If the US military pulls out of South Korea there would be a concern of the Korean War resuming. If South Korea is a Chinese Territory the DPRK can't invade without sparking a conflict with China and can no longer justify their nuclear program since they are now surrounded by an ally.

Millions of South Korean lived saved, tensions reduced in the region, and China will probably be able to get North Korea to give up its nuclear program. South Koreans being Chinese subjects might not be ideal for their national identity but it seems like it would be preferable to the other inevitability if nothing happens? I don't know.

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Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:40 am

Wolfalisk wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:32 am
How silly would it be to suggest that South Korea perhaps seek annexation from China following the removal of US presence in their country? If the US military pulls out of South Korea there would be a concern of the Korean War resuming. If South Korea is a Chinese Territory the DPRK can't invade without sparking a conflict with China and can no longer justify their nuclear program since they are now surrounded by an ally.

Millions of South Korean lived saved, tensions reduced in the region, and China will probably be able to get North Korea to give up its nuclear program. South Koreans being Chinese subjects might not be ideal for their national identity but it seems like it would be preferable to the other inevitability if nothing happens? I don't know.
Ask SK if they want to be annexed, doubtful. That and giving a prosperous country with a elected republic that mostly works to a communist state. Some things are worth fighting for and I seriously doubt SK wants to give those things away easily.

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Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:41 pm

Decapitation. Assassination. Go after kim, his family, his successors, the congress of peoples deputies, the command group. In person.
Our leadership hates that idea, it sets a nasty precedent, and gods forbid their precious, elite, pampered and powdered arses should be on the line...much better to have a few hundred million civilians die for the stupidity of the leadership caste, eh?
Dreck! Putting a 1000 lb bomb into momar's bedroom deflated that despot quite nicely.
Don't blow up half the world. Go after the trouble maker. Kill kim. Kill the head, and the body dies. Air drop gigatons of radio's and smart phones over the DPRK, destroy the jamming stations and propaganda blitz the crap out of 'em. Let them know you are killing the leaders that grow fat gorging on cheese and wine while they starve.
Russia and china will squawk, they won't go to war if we kill the kimmies.
it's really very simple. And, if it causes ones oppo's to go after the leaders by assassin...good! Why should everybody pay except the ones holding the nuclear gun to the worlds heads to show how big their penis substitutes are?
Sometimes, the only rational choice is a head shot.

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