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Russia seeks closer nuclear ties with Japan

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:09 am
by Drumboy44
Russia is ready to build "effective and full-scale" cooperation with Japan in the peaceful uses of nuclear energy to harness the innovations of Russian scientists, Alexey Likhachov, director-general of state nuclear corporation Rosatom said this week. Likhachov began a working visit to Japan on 4 April, where he said in an interview with the Japan Times that cooperation between the two countries was "becoming an urgent necessity".
Likhachov's visit follows his signing in December of a memorandum of cooperation in peaceful uses of atomic energy with two Japanese ministries. One key area of cooperation under the agreement is post-accident recovery at the damaged Fukushima Daiichi plant. Likhachov told the Japanese newspaper that Russia is interested in creating a framework for cooperation - scientifically, technologically and financially.
On Russian assistance in Japan's recovery from the consequences of the 2011 accident, Likhachov noted that the Mitsubishi Research Institute had last month selected two Rosatom subsidiaries, RosRAO and Tenex, to conduct a feasibility study on the creation of a an integrated high-sensitivity neutron detector. This technology will be necessary, he said, for the most accurate "search and identification" of nuclear fuel fragments at the Fukushima Daiichi plant.
Likhachov also noted that the memorandum signed on 16 December enables the two countries to consider the creation of a "unified Russian-Japanese platform" to explore the promotion of innovative nuclear technologies based on the knowledge and experience of nuclear power engineers in both countries. Among such technologies, Likhachov referred to developments in fast neutron reactors, in which he said independent experts rank Rosatom as the world leader. Only in Russia - at the Beloyarsk nuclear power plant - are industrial scale fast neutron reactors in operation, he said
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Re: Russia seeks closer nuclear ties with Japan

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:06 am
by rapidfire25
wonder if its with regards to clean up as well as the USSR learned a lot in the way of cleaning up nuclear meltdowns and incidents.

Re: Russia seeks closer nuclear ties with Japan

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:34 am
by Obreid
This might be a sincere arrangement but the irony of the to nations which experienced the two largest failures would seek to learn the way. Better luck might be with Frances program. Except the whole bit about them dumping their spent fuel in the South Pacific.
Used to be a supporter but as the tech stands today nuke energy is as risky as nuke weapons.

Re: Russia seeks closer nuclear ties with Japan

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:38 pm
by Doc
Obreid wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:34 am
This might be a sincere arrangement but the irony of the to nations which experienced the two largest failures would seek to learn the way. Better luck might be with Frances program. Except the whole bit about them dumping their spent fuel in the South Pacific.
Used to be a supporter but as the tech stands today nuke energy is as risky as nuke weapons.
Not at all. There are several designs that are fool-proof. But you can't cut corners for profit if you want to stay safe.

The Chernobyl reactor was designed in haste, with inherent risks, to produce bomb material and then converted to energy production. The Fukuhsima design was deemed unsafe by american authorities in 1962 and therefore pushed by GE on Japan and Germany who could not refuse.

Re: Russia seeks closer nuclear ties with Japan

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:02 pm
by Obreid
Doc wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:38 pm
Obreid wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:34 am
This might be a sincere arrangement but the irony of the to nations which experienced the two largest failures would seek to learn the way. Better luck might be with Frances program. Except the whole bit about them dumping their spent fuel in the South Pacific.
Used to be a supporter but as the tech stands today nuke energy is as risky as nuke weapons.
Not at all. There are several designs that are fool-proof. But you can't cut corners for profit if you want to stay safe.

The Chernobyl reactor was designed in haste, with inherent risks, to produce bomb material and then converted to energy production. The Fukuhsima design was deemed unsafe by american authorities in 1962 and therefore pushed by GE on Japan and Germany who could not refuse.
France I believe adopted just a few tested and proven designs and implementation and replicated them standardized everything saved in production cost and presumably in safety record.
I am not normally a big fan of the French because they have bigger egos than Americans:)
I am however impressed by some of their major manufacturing and infrastructure projects.

Re: Russia seeks closer nuclear ties with Japan

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:20 pm
by Doc
Obreid wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:02 pm
Doc wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:38 pm
Obreid wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:34 am
This might be a sincere arrangement but the irony of the to nations which experienced the two largest failures would seek to learn the way. Better luck might be with Frances program. Except the whole bit about them dumping their spent fuel in the South Pacific.
Used to be a supporter but as the tech stands today nuke energy is as risky as nuke weapons.
Not at all. There are several designs that are fool-proof. But you can't cut corners for profit if you want to stay safe.

The Chernobyl reactor was designed in haste, with inherent risks, to produce bomb material and then converted to energy production. The Fukuhsima design was deemed unsafe by american authorities in 1962 and therefore pushed by GE on Japan and Germany who could not refuse.
France I believe adopted just a few tested and proven designs and implementation and replicated them standardized everything saved in production cost and presumably in safety record.
I am not normally a big fan of the French because they have bigger egos than Americans:)
I am however impressed by some of their major manufacturing and infrastructure projects.
True. The finns, very intent on having a safe design, chose to colaborate with the french.

From the US you can also look north to the CANDU. Even though it's a positive void reactor, you would have a hard time melting it, even if you wanted to.

Bottom line, there is no problem designing a fool proof reactor in 2017.

Re: Russia seeks closer nuclear ties with Japan

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:01 pm
by Panharith
Russia is ready to build "effective and full-scale" cooperation with Japan in the peaceful uses of nuclear energy to harness the innovations of Russian scientists, Alexey Likhachov, director-general of state nuclear corporation Rosatom said this week. Likhachov began a working visit to Japan on 4 April, where he said in an interview with the Japan Times that cooperation between the two countries was "becoming an urgent necessity".

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